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Social activist Anna Hazare has accepted Delhi Police's offer of two-week fast at Ramlila ground.
NEW DELHI: In a late night breakthrough in the deadlock between Anna Hazare and Delhi Police over the duration of his anti-corruption protest, the Gandhian accepted the offer for 14 days of hunger strike beginning on Thursday at the Ramlila Maidan.
"Anna has accepted the DP (Delhi Police) permission for two weeks (of fast). Anna now shall be at the Ramlila Ground post 3PM", Hazare's aide Kiran Bedi tweeted.
The breakthrough came after a nearly 30-minute meeting Hazare aides Bedi, Prashant Bhushan, Manish Sisodia and Arvind Kejriwal had with Delhi Police commissioner B K Gupta at the latter's residence in Chanakyapuri shortly after midnight.
Bedi said the police commissioner offered permission for 14 days of protest by 73-year-old Hazare at the Ramlila Ground, after which she, along with Bhushan, Sisodia and Kejriwal went back to the Tihar Jail, where the social activist has been staying put ever since her arrest and release on Tuesday, to apprise him of the offer.
Later, Bedi said on the micro-blogging site that Delhi Police "removed the unacceptable conditions and offered 15 days permission. Anna accepted there".
"Anna has accepted the DP permission for two weeks. Anna now shall be at Ramlila grd post 3PM", she added.
An announcement to this effect was also made by an associate of Hazare outside the Tihar jail, which was greeted with lusty cheers by hundreds of supporters by the Gandhian.
"Anna has won. We will get Jan Lokpal Bill", one of the protesters said.
The Anna team met the Delhi Police commissioner in a fresh initiative to end the stalemate over the duration for the Gandhian's protest for a strong Lokpal during which police offered two weeks permission for the hunger strike.
While Delhi Police had climbed down and dropped almost all the conditions it had sought to impose on Hazare's protest, the only sticking point between the two sides has been the duration of the hunger strike.
"We met the police commissioner to help resolve the timeframe", Bedi said.
Kejriwal, who was staying with Hazare at Tihar even after his release from custody, Bhushan, Bedi and Sisodia drove from the prison, where they were holding a series of meetings with Hazare, to meet the police officials.
Police, which had on Tuesday arrested Hazare and his aides on apprehension of breach of peace and foiled his agitation plans, on Wedensday climbed down and dropped most of the conditions including the limit on the number of protesters who can gather at the venue.
In fact, police also offered Ramlila Maidan, a bigger venue than the JP Park which was originally preferred by Hazare, for the protest.
Earlier in the day, Hazare escalated his battle of attrition with the government refusing to come out of Tihar Jail notwithstanding Delhi Police's climb down on the various conditions it had imposed on his indefinite fast in support of a strong Lokpal.
The Gandhian spent a second night in the Tihar jail complex as hectic negotiations had continued between Team Anna and police.
The hard bargaining came on a day when government came under renewed attack in Parliament over Hazare's arrest and rallies in support of the Gandhian continued across the country, including a huge procession from India Gate to Parliament House.
On a day of now-on and now-off announcements, social activists Swami Agnivesh and Medha Patkar told cheering crowd of supporters in the morning that Hazare would come out of the jail anytime and they should be prepared to go to JP Park in a peaceful manner.
However, Hazare, who continued his fast for the second day, seemed to have had other plans when he called Kiran Bedi, Prashant Bhushan and Manish Sisodia and discussed the strategy.
Bedi came out and announced to the crowds that consultations were on and that Hazare was not not coming out anytime soon.
"Anna has accepted the DP (Delhi Police) permission for two weeks (of fast). Anna now shall be at the Ramlila Ground post 3PM", Hazare's aide Kiran Bedi tweeted.
The breakthrough came after a nearly 30-minute meeting Hazare aides Bedi, Prashant Bhushan, Manish Sisodia and Arvind Kejriwal had with Delhi Police commissioner B K Gupta at the latter's residence in Chanakyapuri shortly after midnight.
Bedi said the police commissioner offered permission for 14 days of protest by 73-year-old Hazare at the Ramlila Ground, after which she, along with Bhushan, Sisodia and Kejriwal went back to the Tihar Jail, where the social activist has been staying put ever since her arrest and release on Tuesday, to apprise him of the offer.
Later, Bedi said on the micro-blogging site that Delhi Police "removed the unacceptable conditions and offered 15 days permission. Anna accepted there".
"Anna has accepted the DP permission for two weeks. Anna now shall be at Ramlila grd post 3PM", she added.
An announcement to this effect was also made by an associate of Hazare outside the Tihar jail, which was greeted with lusty cheers by hundreds of supporters by the Gandhian.
"Anna has won. We will get Jan Lokpal Bill", one of the protesters said.
The Anna team met the Delhi Police commissioner in a fresh initiative to end the stalemate over the duration for the Gandhian's protest for a strong Lokpal during which police offered two weeks permission for the hunger strike.
While Delhi Police had climbed down and dropped almost all the conditions it had sought to impose on Hazare's protest, the only sticking point between the two sides has been the duration of the hunger strike.
"We met the police commissioner to help resolve the timeframe", Bedi said.
Kejriwal, who was staying with Hazare at Tihar even after his release from custody, Bhushan, Bedi and Sisodia drove from the prison, where they were holding a series of meetings with Hazare, to meet the police officials.
Police, which had on Tuesday arrested Hazare and his aides on apprehension of breach of peace and foiled his agitation plans, on Wedensday climbed down and dropped most of the conditions including the limit on the number of protesters who can gather at the venue.
In fact, police also offered Ramlila Maidan, a bigger venue than the JP Park which was originally preferred by Hazare, for the protest.
Earlier in the day, Hazare escalated his battle of attrition with the government refusing to come out of Tihar Jail notwithstanding Delhi Police's climb down on the various conditions it had imposed on his indefinite fast in support of a strong Lokpal.
The Gandhian spent a second night in the Tihar jail complex as hectic negotiations had continued between Team Anna and police.
The hard bargaining came on a day when government came under renewed attack in Parliament over Hazare's arrest and rallies in support of the Gandhian continued across the country, including a huge procession from India Gate to Parliament House.
On a day of now-on and now-off announcements, social activists Swami Agnivesh and Medha Patkar told cheering crowd of supporters in the morning that Hazare would come out of the jail anytime and they should be prepared to go to JP Park in a peaceful manner.
However, Hazare, who continued his fast for the second day, seemed to have had other plans when he called Kiran Bedi, Prashant Bhushan and Manish Sisodia and discussed the strategy.
Bedi came out and announced to the crowds that consultations were on and that Hazare was not not coming out anytime soon.
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Rahul Thakur (shimla) replies to Arvind Kul
6 mins ago (04:27 AM)
correct. Bhishma was killed because of an eunuch named Shikhandi. And Shikhandi of present era is Kapil Sibal
6 mins ago (04:27 AM)
correct. Bhishma was killed because of an eunuch named Shikhandi. And Shikhandi of present era is Kapil Sibal
KD Dagan (Sydney)
16 mins ago (04:17 AM)
Indian Constitution, though it is for the people of India but actually it is being misutilised by Mafias,land grabbers,builders,Corrupt and dishonest MPs and MLAs and Bureaucrats. It helps only cheaters and rich people to enjoy at the cost of Aam Aadami.But Anna Hazare made these Thugs to run away from the cheating the people.After Mahatma Gandhi, only JaiPrakash Narayan and now Anna Hazare made Congress Govt to ament their corrupt practices.For this credit also goes to third Pillar(Judiciary) and Print&Electronic Medias who expose the present Govt's dirty face.
16 mins ago (04:17 AM)
Indian Constitution, though it is for the people of India but actually it is being misutilised by Mafias,land grabbers,builders,Corrupt and dishonest MPs and MLAs and Bureaucrats. It helps only cheaters and rich people to enjoy at the cost of Aam Aadami.But Anna Hazare made these Thugs to run away from the cheating the people.After Mahatma Gandhi, only JaiPrakash Narayan and now Anna Hazare made Congress Govt to ament their corrupt practices.For this credit also goes to third Pillar(Judiciary) and Print&Electronic Medias who expose the present Govt's dirty face.
JK (India)
19 mins ago (04:14 AM)
Honest Prime Minister Manmohan Singh is stuck between the people and Sonia. People want to remove corruption by passing Jan lokpal. Sonia won't allow it. In he wants to protect his reputation he should resign immediately and speak up against dishonest people in his party.
19 mins ago (04:14 AM)
Honest Prime Minister Manmohan Singh is stuck between the people and Sonia. People want to remove corruption by passing Jan lokpal. Sonia won't allow it. In he wants to protect his reputation he should resign immediately and speak up against dishonest people in his party.
Jimmy Gazdhar (Navi Mumbai)
26 mins ago (04:07 AM)
The Lokpal Bill is stupid. It says "independent commission" will be set up. Who sets it up? Indirectly, the central govt. It says, guilty must be punished within 2 years - what happens if evidence is not found within 2 years? With so many million possible cases, 2 years will become 25 years or more, just like it is now. We already have enough laws to tackle corruption, we just cannot implement them. What is guarantee that we can implement this Bill? Nonsense!
26 mins ago (04:07 AM)
The Lokpal Bill is stupid. It says "independent commission" will be set up. Who sets it up? Indirectly, the central govt. It says, guilty must be punished within 2 years - what happens if evidence is not found within 2 years? With so many million possible cases, 2 years will become 25 years or more, just like it is now. We already have enough laws to tackle corruption, we just cannot implement them. What is guarantee that we can implement this Bill? Nonsense!
Rahul thakur (shimla) replies to Jimmy Gazdhar
4 mins ago (04:29 AM)
so chu*** kya karen? let the corruption thrive in this country? ya koi bhagwan aa kar theek karenge?
4 mins ago (04:29 AM)
so chu*** kya karen? let the corruption thrive in this country? ya koi bhagwan aa kar theek karenge?
laalu (teri aand phadu) replies to Jimmy Gazdhar
18 mins ago (04:15 AM)
Muth Maru Singh.. bhaag.. . dk... boss.. dk.. boss... dk.. bhaag..
18 mins ago (04:15 AM)
Muth Maru Singh.. bhaag.. . dk... boss.. dk.. boss... dk.. bhaag..
Dr.R.K.Jain (Bhopal, India)
33 mins ago (04:00 AM)
Baring a few most of the MPs have enmassed money in millions. They give wrong figures while filing the nomination papers for election. Even if that is traken as correct and believed they all should be subjected to EOW investigation. And the cases should be decided within two months. They should not be allowed to continue, no pension and what has been given to them should be recovered.How one can believe that a person in his first term of being an MP has 2.5 crores in the bank, two shops in Delhi malls, and 9.5 acres of agriculture land near Delhi.And he is very honest because no body dares to touch him on the country people dance on his tunes. Should all those cases pending in the courts against political masters not be decided in a limited period and persons be penalised? There is not one RAJA or one Kalmadi, there is big fleet waiting for this noble cause.
33 mins ago (04:00 AM)
Baring a few most of the MPs have enmassed money in millions. They give wrong figures while filing the nomination papers for election. Even if that is traken as correct and believed they all should be subjected to EOW investigation. And the cases should be decided within two months. They should not be allowed to continue, no pension and what has been given to them should be recovered.How one can believe that a person in his first term of being an MP has 2.5 crores in the bank, two shops in Delhi malls, and 9.5 acres of agriculture land near Delhi.And he is very honest because no body dares to touch him on the country people dance on his tunes. Should all those cases pending in the courts against political masters not be decided in a limited period and persons be penalised? There is not one RAJA or one Kalmadi, there is big fleet waiting for this noble cause.
Zilla (usa) replies to Truth
17 mins ago (04:16 AM)
You have a very good point, but also might know that in India (I think only in India), if your leader is Hungry and is Hungry for a GENUINE reason for HIMSELF/NATION, People just die/follow HIM. And when people follow a MOVEMENT--> Drives GOV (or whom the agitation is against) CRAZY--> Coz GOV will loose VOTES (again only in India)--> And that's how they UNDERSTAND. Let me know if my logic has any sense or not?
17 mins ago (04:16 AM)
You have a very good point, but also might know that in India (I think only in India), if your leader is Hungry and is Hungry for a GENUINE reason for HIMSELF/NATION, People just die/follow HIM. And when people follow a MOVEMENT--> Drives GOV (or whom the agitation is against) CRAZY--> Coz GOV will loose VOTES (again only in India)--> And that's how they UNDERSTAND. Let me know if my logic has any sense or not?
ilangovan (Tamilnadu)
38 mins ago (03:55 AM)
How many are willing to wait in line to board a bus, train or even go inside the temple ? Any way to get in with money and pressure is the way of life. Start listening to Ex President Abdul Kalam, start changing you and your family. This show business and change or new Law is only an eye wash.
38 mins ago (03:55 AM)
How many are willing to wait in line to board a bus, train or even go inside the temple ? Any way to get in with money and pressure is the way of life. Start listening to Ex President Abdul Kalam, start changing you and your family. This show business and change or new Law is only an eye wash.
neela (south pacific) replies to ilangovan
13 mins ago (04:20 AM)
Changing oneself and family, this is what we did for 64 years, and the present stage is this. That is why, we are all united under one agenda 'Action against corruption", A law or bill makes prosecution , punishment, inevitable of corruption. People have forgotten God's words,reaping fruits of good and bad karma,. Ministers continue to occupye the govt houses eventhough they lost posts in Delhi. Flats are grabbed by politiciens which were meant for war widows, 2 G scam, CWD scam, how can ordinary citizen change oneself?/ the scam is known after the looting is over and money is sent in secret swiss banks?? You are on other side of the road, must be the beneficary of the loot, so you want to buy some more time to grab some more. Here the issues are bigger than train, bus, temple queue, ( as the population decreases, all the queues disappear), we are not making bills for railstation, temple etc, becuase it does not harm our daily food, shelter and very existence as human being.
13 mins ago (04:20 AM)
Changing oneself and family, this is what we did for 64 years, and the present stage is this. That is why, we are all united under one agenda 'Action against corruption", A law or bill makes prosecution , punishment, inevitable of corruption. People have forgotten God's words,reaping fruits of good and bad karma,. Ministers continue to occupye the govt houses eventhough they lost posts in Delhi. Flats are grabbed by politiciens which were meant for war widows, 2 G scam, CWD scam, how can ordinary citizen change oneself?/ the scam is known after the looting is over and money is sent in secret swiss banks?? You are on other side of the road, must be the beneficary of the loot, so you want to buy some more time to grab some more. Here the issues are bigger than train, bus, temple queue, ( as the population decreases, all the queues disappear), we are not making bills for railstation, temple etc, becuase it does not harm our daily food, shelter and very existence as human being.
Zilla (usa) replies to ilangovan
23 mins ago (04:10 AM)
Did our FREEDOM Fighters also think that way, that OK LET WE ONLY GET FREEDOM and lets other just die. Why this point? Coz In India 80% people live in Rural, and they dont have MONEY or PRESSURE techniques what a PERSON in CITY may have. So shouldnt we try to change the SYSTEM to make it LIVABLE for everybody even in the VILLAGES?
23 mins ago (04:10 AM)
Did our FREEDOM Fighters also think that way, that OK LET WE ONLY GET FREEDOM and lets other just die. Why this point? Coz In India 80% people live in Rural, and they dont have MONEY or PRESSURE techniques what a PERSON in CITY may have. So shouldnt we try to change the SYSTEM to make it LIVABLE for everybody even in the VILLAGES?
JK (India) replies to ilangovan
25 mins ago (04:08 AM)
Don't talk if you have not read and understood Jan Lokpal bill.
25 mins ago (04:08 AM)
Don't talk if you have not read and understood Jan Lokpal bill.
Truth (US) replies to ilangovan
27 mins ago (04:06 AM)
How many of Indians honestly paid challan to a traffic violation and how many bribed the constable and got away with it? How many Indians follow the existing laws. And they want new laws to break again.
27 mins ago (04:06 AM)
How many of Indians honestly paid challan to a traffic violation and how many bribed the constable and got away with it? How many Indians follow the existing laws. And they want new laws to break again.
ZIlla (usa) replies to Truth
6 mins ago (04:27 AM)
You are in US, right? You have to follow the LAW coz here is US the LAWS are enforced, you dont have a CHOICE of WILLINGLY NOT FOLLOWING the LAW, because there is STRICT AUDITING is USA in all Depts. That means ONCE enforced you have to follow the LAW, and YOU WILL NATURALLY BREAK the LAW if it's NOT ENFORCED. Try to JUMP Red light, and HAVE your NICE picture with car sent HOME. Try IT? In India LAWS aren't enforced, so NATURALLY People would jump LAWS, yes some people refrain from that but still there would be NATURAL tendency. And in case of Sales Tax Dept, Registrar, RTOs, n other big Gov depts, even if you SAY NO I WILL NOT BRIBE, boss ur case would keep on Pending. Go try it out?
6 mins ago (04:27 AM)
You are in US, right? You have to follow the LAW coz here is US the LAWS are enforced, you dont have a CHOICE of WILLINGLY NOT FOLLOWING the LAW, because there is STRICT AUDITING is USA in all Depts. That means ONCE enforced you have to follow the LAW, and YOU WILL NATURALLY BREAK the LAW if it's NOT ENFORCED. Try to JUMP Red light, and HAVE your NICE picture with car sent HOME. Try IT? In India LAWS aren't enforced, so NATURALLY People would jump LAWS, yes some people refrain from that but still there would be NATURAL tendency. And in case of Sales Tax Dept, Registrar, RTOs, n other big Gov depts, even if you SAY NO I WILL NOT BRIBE, boss ur case would keep on Pending. Go try it out?
Rajesh Khosla (Rajesh khosla)
47 mins ago (03:46 AM)
Indira Gandhi made a mistake of trying to trample democracy in India in 1975 and it resulted in demise of the Congress party. The current leadership (Mrs. Sonia Gandhi) is now repeating the same mistake and somehow expecting a different result. Dr. Manmohan Singh is quickly losing the respect of the people of India by showing he is a pawn in the hands of Mrs. S. Gandhi and has no back bone. Dr. Singh should stop using the name “singh� as he is insulting the tradition of “singh� and forgetting the sacrifices made by the ten Guru’s (and even young children of the Guru’s). Shame on you Dr. Singh - show some guts and simply resign while you still have a chance to regain respect. Show us that you are a real Singh and just in name only. "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to fulfill it" - George Santayana
47 mins ago (03:46 AM)
Indira Gandhi made a mistake of trying to trample democracy in India in 1975 and it resulted in demise of the Congress party. The current leadership (Mrs. Sonia Gandhi) is now repeating the same mistake and somehow expecting a different result. Dr. Manmohan Singh is quickly losing the respect of the people of India by showing he is a pawn in the hands of Mrs. S. Gandhi and has no back bone. Dr. Singh should stop using the name “singh� as he is insulting the tradition of “singh� and forgetting the sacrifices made by the ten Guru’s (and even young children of the Guru’s). Shame on you Dr. Singh - show some guts and simply resign while you still have a chance to regain respect. Show us that you are a real Singh and just in name only. "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to fulfill it" - George Santayana
netmonkey666 (CH)
49 mins ago (03:44 AM)
My Dear countrymen, Watch out .. BJP is slowly joining UPA's version..They are only supporting Anna's "right to agitate" and not the Jan Lok Pal. All politicians are b@st@rds. they'll sell our motherland to make bl00dy money and save their THICK skin. This is the only opportunity to smoke out the good from the bad. Let's hang all these politican rats..
49 mins ago (03:44 AM)
My Dear countrymen, Watch out .. BJP is slowly joining UPA's version..They are only supporting Anna's "right to agitate" and not the Jan Lok Pal. All politicians are b@st@rds. they'll sell our motherland to make bl00dy money and save their THICK skin. This is the only opportunity to smoke out the good from the bad. Let's hang all these politican rats..
Zilla (usa) replies to netmonkey666
42 mins ago (03:51 AM)
I think, I put my point earlier on the same topic. Once more here: If BJP also doesnt support it, for sure in Next General elections there would be party from ANNA's team. And you might See the Impact on BJP n Congress, both would for sure face huge losses. Either way it would be GOOD. Who depends on BJP or Congress...I can VOTE for any party who helps Build INDIA.
42 mins ago (03:51 AM)
I think, I put my point earlier on the same topic. Once more here: If BJP also doesnt support it, for sure in Next General elections there would be party from ANNA's team. And you might See the Impact on BJP n Congress, both would for sure face huge losses. Either way it would be GOOD. Who depends on BJP or Congress...I can VOTE for any party who helps Build INDIA.
NothingButTheBest (9) replies to Zilla
7 mins ago (04:26 AM)
No way Congress this time. Arun Jaitley for PM.
7 mins ago (04:26 AM)
No way Congress this time. Arun Jaitley for PM.
Sunny George (Kottayam)
50 mins ago (03:43 AM)
The anti-corruption bill is now in parliament. If the political parties are honest they can support the bill with clauses proposed by Anna Hazare rather than stumbling the procedures of the legitimately elected supreme democratic body of the 121 crore people of India.
50 mins ago (03:43 AM)
The anti-corruption bill is now in parliament. If the political parties are honest they can support the bill with clauses proposed by Anna Hazare rather than stumbling the procedures of the legitimately elected supreme democratic body of the 121 crore people of India.
pbkishan (Guwahati)
1 hr ago (03:26 AM)
I have a stupid question in my mind. Are all the supporters of team anna is going for the fast for 15 days? If so, it means a massive saving of food grain!!!!!. 1200000000 x 0.6 x 15 =10800000000 kg ie 10800000 metric tonnes !!!! plus other related items. Huge saving. Government should have granted permission for much more days.
1 hr ago (03:26 AM)
I have a stupid question in my mind. Are all the supporters of team anna is going for the fast for 15 days? If so, it means a massive saving of food grain!!!!!. 1200000000 x 0.6 x 15 =10800000000 kg ie 10800000 metric tonnes !!!! plus other related items. Huge saving. Government should have granted permission for much more days.
Raghuveer (India) replies to pbkishan
1 hr ago (03:31 AM)
If they grant permission for more days, they will run out of their own saving in swiss bank.
1 hr ago (03:31 AM)
If they grant permission for more days, they will run out of their own saving in swiss bank.
Raj (Canada)
1 hr ago (03:25 AM)
Are all Anna's supporters honest people who have not evaded taxes ? All the bollywood actors supporting him aremost corrupt themselves and rolling in black money and illegal foreign bank accounts. This is plain drama done by the BJP, who are themselves corrupt. Go clean your own house before making a mockery of the parliament. Anna should fight election and if wins can sit in the lok sabha to suggest his bill. It can't be done by blackmail. The people have elected their representatives to the parliament to make laws. If you don't like them then elect some one else in the new elections. Gandhiji fought against the British but Anna is fighting against governemet which has been elected by the people of India.
1 hr ago (03:25 AM)
Are all Anna's supporters honest people who have not evaded taxes ? All the bollywood actors supporting him aremost corrupt themselves and rolling in black money and illegal foreign bank accounts. This is plain drama done by the BJP, who are themselves corrupt. Go clean your own house before making a mockery of the parliament. Anna should fight election and if wins can sit in the lok sabha to suggest his bill. It can't be done by blackmail. The people have elected their representatives to the parliament to make laws. If you don't like them then elect some one else in the new elections. Gandhiji fought against the British but Anna is fighting against governemet which has been elected by the people of India.
oshan (Jaipur, Rajasthan) replies to Raj
32 mins ago (04:01 AM)
each and every one of us, in one way or the other, is responsible for the state of country rite now.. but does that mean we stop supporting a person who is fighting for a just cause and something that would benefit the whole nation...? the bill proposed by the government wont bring 1% of the ministers, bureaucrats and other officials under its purview.. we cant wait for anna to contest election and then suggest ammendments..
32 mins ago (04:01 AM)
each and every one of us, in one way or the other, is responsible for the state of country rite now.. but does that mean we stop supporting a person who is fighting for a just cause and something that would benefit the whole nation...? the bill proposed by the government wont bring 1% of the ministers, bureaucrats and other officials under its purview.. we cant wait for anna to contest election and then suggest ammendments..
Arvind (Chennai) replies to Raj
32 mins ago (04:01 AM)
you should stupid, you are a NRI so will you speak such words
32 mins ago (04:01 AM)
you should stupid, you are a NRI so will you speak such words
Vinay Sood (Australia) replies to Raj
39 mins ago (03:54 AM)
tell me one thinig why we are like that if someone tries to do a good thing we started thinking why he is doing this there must be someone benifit behind that... stop thinking that just think everyone is united for a good cause.. if you can't support please don try to give your stupid ideas
39 mins ago (03:54 AM)
tell me one thinig why we are like that if someone tries to do a good thing we started thinking why he is doing this there must be someone benifit behind that... stop thinking that just think everyone is united for a good cause.. if you can't support please don try to give your stupid ideas
moderate (USA) replies to Raj
52 mins ago (03:41 AM)
so you mean those who are corrupt should not support anti-corruption movement?
52 mins ago (03:41 AM)
so you mean those who are corrupt should not support anti-corruption movement?
Zilla (usa) replies to Raj
56 mins ago (03:37 AM)
Wow, u seem so INTELLIGENT? Let me ask you a simple question, pl remember SIMPLE question: If Jan Lokpal Bill gets approved, wouldnt BJP also be bitten by the SAME TEETH of Jan Lokpal that Congress be?
56 mins ago (03:37 AM)
Wow, u seem so INTELLIGENT? Let me ask you a simple question, pl remember SIMPLE question: If Jan Lokpal Bill gets approved, wouldnt BJP also be bitten by the SAME TEETH of Jan Lokpal that Congress be?
rahulG (India) replies to Ashish Arora
41 mins ago (03:52 AM)
CNN IBN Sagarika Ghosh tried to portrey Anna Hajares movement against corruption as STREET PEOPLES MOVEMENT, and was saying Just meditating at Gandhi Samadhi doesnt make ANNA mahatma, SHE COMEPLTEY BASHED ANNA, she completely Bashed Middle class peoples and tried t support corrupt government and was just being beeyach of India. Sagarika ghosh is traitor and COngressi slave who doesnt love this country. SPEAK AGAINST SAGARIKA, THE CONGRESS AGENT IN MEDIA and enemy of common peoples of this coutnry
41 mins ago (03:52 AM)
CNN IBN Sagarika Ghosh tried to portrey Anna Hajares movement against corruption as STREET PEOPLES MOVEMENT, and was saying Just meditating at Gandhi Samadhi doesnt make ANNA mahatma, SHE COMEPLTEY BASHED ANNA, she completely Bashed Middle class peoples and tried t support corrupt government and was just being beeyach of India. Sagarika ghosh is traitor and COngressi slave who doesnt love this country. SPEAK AGAINST SAGARIKA, THE CONGRESS AGENT IN MEDIA and enemy of common peoples of this coutnry
Ashish Arora replies to rahulG
37 mins ago (03:56 AM)
If you are enough matured to have a sense of right or wrong, why do u care what she says. And there are better people, relatively unbiased, like Karan Thapar and Rajdeep Sardesai. Listen to them instead.
37 mins ago (03:56 AM)
If you are enough matured to have a sense of right or wrong, why do u care what she says. And there are better people, relatively unbiased, like Karan Thapar and Rajdeep Sardesai. Listen to them instead.
ppwanjari (New Orleans)
1 hr ago (03:21 AM)
Nice work by Anna Team. 15 days are quite enough to achieve what they want. Anna team is avoiding the mistakes done during Baba Ramdev's protest. They are strict with government politics and not giving them any chance. Now every other activist including Baba and Sri Sri should join them at Ramlila and force the corrupt government to pass the strong lokpal bill.
1 hr ago (03:21 AM)
Nice work by Anna Team. 15 days are quite enough to achieve what they want. Anna team is avoiding the mistakes done during Baba Ramdev's protest. They are strict with government politics and not giving them any chance. Now every other activist including Baba and Sri Sri should join them at Ramlila and force the corrupt government to pass the strong lokpal bill.
Himanshu (Delhi) replies to SRGay
30 mins ago (04:03 AM)
well yes, ur kinda guys shd run. u dont need to be here in India.
30 mins ago (04:03 AM)
well yes, ur kinda guys shd run. u dont need to be here in India.
arvind (Chennai) replies to netmonkey666
28 mins ago (04:05 AM)
When did we expect BJP will support Lokpal, we all knew they were just taking the advantage to be on the limelight. do you think we forgot about all the scams during BJP regime, it starts from coffin box ------
28 mins ago (04:05 AM)
When did we expect BJP will support Lokpal, we all knew they were just taking the advantage to be on the limelight. do you think we forgot about all the scams during BJP regime, it starts from coffin box ------
Zilla (usa) replies to netmonkey666
1 hr ago (03:29 AM)
If BJP also doesnt support it, for sure in Next General elections there would be party from ANNA's team. And you might See the Impact on BJP n Congress, both would for sure face huge losses. Either way it would be GOOD. Who depends on BJP or Congress...I can VOTE for any party who helps Build INDIA.
1 hr ago (03:29 AM)
If BJP also doesnt support it, for sure in Next General elections there would be party from ANNA's team. And you might See the Impact on BJP n Congress, both would for sure face huge losses. Either way it would be GOOD. Who depends on BJP or Congress...I can VOTE for any party who helps Build INDIA.
Nice work by Anna Team. 15 days are quite enough to achieve what they want. Anna team is avoiding the mistakes done during Baba Ramdev's protest. They are strict with government politics and not giving them any chance. Now every other activist including Baba and Sri Sri should join them at Ramlila and force the corrupt government to pass the strong lokpal bill.
When did we expect BJP will support Lokpal, we all knew they were just taking the advantage to be on the limelight. do you think we forgot about all the scams during BJP regime, it starts from coffin box ------
If BJP also doesnt support it, for sure in Next General elections there would be party from ANNA's team. And you might See the Impact on BJP n Congress, both would for sure face huge losses. Either way it would be GOOD. Who depends on BJP or Congress...I can VOTE for any party who helps Build INDIA.
The real battle begins after the fast begins in RamLila ground----I hope movement is not allowed to procrastinate and die down------Fast or No fast ----Ram lila ground must become the launching pad till all corrupt leaders are exposed----Nation must rise and tell CONGRESS---Enough is enough----Congress must read the public mood�attacking Anna will not salvage the party�Anna is just a face�behind it lies the anger and frustration of 1220 million Indians. Move on India---This is the final chance to free yourself of corrupt politicians of all hue and cry----Congress is NOT the only one----Message must go to all politicians
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2 Hafte-Doesnt look like this rigid Govt would come down. Its a Long way to go Dear.
If the people of India vehemently does not want to obey the simple section 144 of Cr.P.C. and mobilising mass movement against apprehending breach of law and order situation imposed by the police in the larger interest of public tranquillity, how do we expect the rigorous Jan Lokpal Act against the offence of black money and corruption supposed to be obeyed strictly in words and spirits by the legislature, executive and judiciary? Newton's Third Law : For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. Are we not sending the wrong message to the world by our deed and action ? Or the laws are made for others...
Either you are paid by the govt to write this or you are so stupid who don’t understand what is going on. Your statement made all freedom fighter look fool who rob British armor to have freedom fighter. This is losing in both the way , without armor you can’t fight and if you are taking armor then you are thief anyway. You are saying that obey govt blindly as if someone is protesting against corruption, it means he is doing crime already for protesting govt.
Blatant abuse of power for 64 years, corrupt leaders unashamedly looting motherland, spiralling price rise, widening gap between rich & poor, constant terrorists attacks, how much more ppl shud take? MMS added last straw insisting 2 sign Lokpal on his own terms & muzzle the democratic voice . Enough grounds for peaceful revolt. Abdul, if our forefathers had heeded ur advice to abide Sec 144, we wud still have lived under Brits!!
do u think he is fasting for his personal interest.. just fast it for a day for someone and you will know whats the pain.... we have been following the rule since 64 years.. what did we get..? even for going to loo we need to pay triple the money which is written on the board... why ?? Its corruption... which is in our blood.. its high time we should correct ourself.. else the day is approaching when we will persish...
govt put section 144 so we the people of india can not raise our voice against curruption.. as u said for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction... it's govt who is breaching and playing with laws to save thr own currupt MPs....
First thing, this has nothing to do any of Newton's law. This is not physics. This is fight against corruption. Not related to Newton's any law anyway. (You can show some relationship forcefully but in general there is no relationship). 144 was imposed for the convenience of government not for the convenience of people. 144 was imposed because government did not want people to gather and put pressure on government. 144 was imposed because government did not want to do same thing which they did with Baba Ramdev because it was criticized by their own party members.Part where you said it will not be implemented strictly, if that would have been possible, government would have passed it immediately. Because they are scared, their fear is genuine, they will be caught if they do corruption.
Agreed... I remember a quote from some place: "Proof by analogy is fraud"
Please tell this to P.C...for violating constitutional right to protest...people have come on street because govt is arrogant and not willing to make strong Lokpal bill or any measure to prevent corruption and get all money from corrupted people..Anna Hajare is fighting for us and for our better future..
Newton's fourth law for you: To and fro motion leaves a creamy lotion. We are coming with a thick log of wood to teach you this law :D
Right now I am teaching him Newton's law of force: Force is a push or pull :D
We are living in a country where we have a complex electorial system. Where we are following old legislations passed early in 1947. The law system in india takes more then 10 years to resolve a case. This Lock pal bill it self if pending from last 40 years. we have waited a long time already. regarding section 144 it applies when a citizen breaks a rule. Anna was taken to Jail well before he reached the park/or commit any crime. He did not even break the law, he was at his home ! Also, listen to Arun Jately's reply on the section 144, before writing anything.
What law and order you are talking about? GIve me one example when poor person was protected by law. The women in the country are not safe. I can list million examples of stupid law system u are referring to. WHat re teh right messages we have sent in the world so far. Its easy to sit and comment on someone who is trying to do something for people of india with honest intention. Using the big words Judiciary etc is not justify the corrupted government.
Where were you when the ministers under the nose of the Govt were breaching various laws and looting this country? Do you want to continue with it?
Khillawala (Hum those dete hai aand me khilla)) replies to Abdulraheman Patrawala
1 hr ago (03:13 AM)
1 hr ago (03:13 AM)
oye patrawala.. kitna lega mere dukaan ka patra theek karneka? Did Gandhiji not defy the law to get freedom for our people??????
when the laws become unjust, or when a greater casue is at stake, the collective conscience of the people may be stirred and express itself in such ways. This is indirect civil disobedience, which is a hallmark of an evolved society. Kudos to the people
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NEW DELHI — The best thing about Indian politicians is that they make you feel you are a better person. Not surprisingly, Indians often derive their moral confidence not through the discomfort of examining their own actions, but from regarding themselves as decent folks looted by corrupt, villainous politicians.
This is at the heart of a self-righteous middle-class uprising against political corruption, a television news drama that reached its inevitable climax in Delhi on Tuesday when the rural social reformer Anna Hazare was about to set out for his death fast — the second one he has attempted this year to press his demand for a powerful anti-corruption agency.
He was arrested by the police, ostensibly in the interest of law and order.
Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, in his Independence Day address to the nation on Monday, took digs at Mr. Hazare and his tactic of using hunger strikes to twist the arm of an elected government. Mr. Singh said that he did not have “a magic wand” to end corruption in India.
The anti-corruption movement has the simplicity of a third-rate fable.
There are the good guys (the reformers and the average Indian citizen) and the bad guys (the politicians). But the real story is not a fable but art cinema.
Indians have a deep and complicated relationship with corruption. As in any long marriage, it is not clear whether they are happily or unhappily married. The country’s economic system is fused with many strands of corruption and organized systems of tax evasion. The middle class is very much a part of this.
Most Indians have paid a bribe. Most Indian businesses cannot survive or remain competitive without stashing away undeclared earnings.
Almost everybody who has sold a house has taken one part of the payment in cash and evaded tax on it.
Yet, the branding of corruption is so powerful that Indians moan the moment they hear the word. The comic hypocrisy of it all was best evident in the past few months as the anti-corruption movement gathered unprecedented middle-class support.
When Mr. Hazare went on a hunger strike in April to protest against political corruption, the film stars of Mumbai added much glamour to his cause by coming out in unambiguous support. Two months later, when a yoga instructor called Baba Ramdev went on a fast demanding that the government investigate “black money” hidden in foreign accounts, the film stars went silent. For good reason.
The film industry is much cleaner today than it was more than a decade ago, but, revenue officials say, huge quantities of secret wealth are still a part of its system.
One reason the mafia could get such a firm hold on the film industry in the 1990s was that it had established a business relationship with producers and actors and functioned as an efficient conduit for illicitly transferring their money to safe foreign havens.
Following Mr. Ramdev’s fast, when the government agreed to investigate Indian money hidden in foreign banks, The Times of India ran an intriguing essay that argued that the law should make a distinction between the “black money” of corrupt politicians, earned through kickbacks, and the “black money” of businessmen who had moved their cash abroad years ago to save themselves from unreasonably high tax rates in socialist India. The essay implied that corrupt politicians were the real evil and that the tax-evading businessmen were just smart.
Corruption is such an integral part of Indian society that the chief economic adviser to the government, Kaushik Basu, has suggested legalizing the payment of bribes. He received enthusiastic corporate support, which is to be expected since the largest bribe-payers in India are corporations.
Mr. Basu’s reasoning is that if the payment of bribes were legalized, the bribe-payer could be persuaded to reveal the recipient. This would inject fear into the hearts of politicians and officials who expected bribes. N.R. Narayana Murthy, founder of the Indian software company Infosys, said in a television interview that Mr. Basu’s suggestion was “a great idea.”
In an informal way, Indian society does grant legitimacy to the bribe-payer because “bribe-payer” is a description that fits most of the country, including many of Mr. Hazare’s nicely dressed supporters.
This legitimacy is a bit absurd when extended to corporations.
If the lament of Indians is that political corruption pilfers public resources, then who are its chief beneficiaries? It is the companies that secure licenses at discounted rates in exchange for kickbacks.
But the public rage is directed only at the middlemen — the politicians.
There are several reasons for this. Among them is the plain fact that many of the new supporters of the anti-corruption movement are corporate executives themselves, and there is a common perception that, while a company has to be practical, a politician has to be virtuous.
Also, the mainstream Indian news media are efficiently controlled by corporations, which can threaten to pull advertisements in the face of any negative coverage.
Behind the power of India’s anti-corruption movement is the rise of a new emotion: Young urban Indians are more interested in their nation than ever before. As a consequence they are more politically aware.
Seven years ago, I went around Mumbai asking fashionably dressed college students questions like, “Who is the deputy prime minister of India?” Often, I was faced with long, embarrassed silences, or “Oh my God, quiz question.”
When I asked a young Muslim woman the question “Who is Narendra Modi?” she said she had not heard the name before. Mr. Modi, the chief minister of Gujarat, was then and still is accused of assisting riots that resulted in the deaths of hundreds of Muslims.
Today, there is a perceptible increase in the number of young people who are acutely aware and interested in the fate of the nation. That is because they are different from the generations before them whose only objective in life was to escape India. Now that the world is what it is, there is no place to escape to. So they want their home to be a better place — where bribe-takers are punished and bribe-payers live happily ever after.
Manu Joseph is editor of the Indian newsweekly Open and author of the novel “Serious Men.”
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